Comments for Reaction to Archbishop's Sharia-speech highlights ignorance about sharia at http://www.hizb.org.uk/hizb , comment 1 to 10 out of 10 comments http://www.hizb.org.uk/hizb Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:27:56 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.2 http://www.hizb.org.uk/hizb/resources/issues-explained/reaction-to-archbishop-s-sharia-speech-highlights-ignorance-about-sharia.html#comment-2958 well, thats an interesting debate so far, i am not living in the west and i dont intend to, because my western friends living here with me tell me about the cost they have to pay for getting those so-called "benefits". Here in the middle east everything is OK so far until the western war mongers come and destroy what we have now. I have sympathy for the people living in the west, trying to maintain their religious values whether catholics or orthodox or muzlimz. - astonished Sun, 02 Mar 2008 11:38:50 +0100 http://www.hizb.org.uk/hizb/resources/issues-explained/reaction-to-archbishop-s-sharia-speech-highlights-ignorance-about-sharia.html#comment-2882 On the one hand, you say you have no intent to implement shariah in the west. On the other hand, you point out all the problems in western society and how shariah would rectify them. Understand please - we like things just as they are here in the west. We dont want your shariah, with laws on how to defecate and everything else under the sun. As said above, if you dont like it here, please take advantage of that other western freedom - the right to leave. Oh, thats right, that would require giving up all those welfare benefits now wouldnt it? And if I am not mistaken, extra benefits for those extra wives. - Lou Stouch Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:21:37 +0100 http://www.hizb.org.uk/hizb/resources/issues-explained/reaction-to-archbishop-s-sharia-speech-highlights-ignorance-about-sharia.html#comment-2873 What you fail to see is, you wish to follow your faith and ways in the western world, but all you do is complain how it is and how you want to change it. When in Rome do as the Romans do or find somewhere else. Simple, don't like the western world move back east. Oh no where would the benifits of the western world come from then!!!! - Paul Mon, 18 Feb 2008 09:42:34 +0100 http://www.hizb.org.uk/hizb/resources/issues-explained/reaction-to-archbishop-s-sharia-speech-highlights-ignorance-about-sharia.html#comment-2865 I Miss sharia a lots! from nusantara to uk gide by khilafah wow...subhanallah.. ;) - Sofie Sat, 16 Feb 2008 05:03:49 +0100 http://www.hizb.org.uk/hizb/resources/issues-explained/reaction-to-archbishop-s-sharia-speech-highlights-ignorance-about-sharia.html#comment-2836 Regarding debate, this is just a style used to discuss ideas in an open atmosphere where people can hear both sides of the argument and then judge for themselves. We saw this in many exmaples at the time of the Prophet(saw) where he would go into the Market places and deliver Islam and challenge the current way of life and beliefs. We saw the Companions(ra) do the same. Ali(ra) was noted for his wisdom in debate. We then saw that the great scholars of the past also used this same style such as Imam Abu Hanifah etc. In today's situation we need to do the same. We need to debate Islam and Secularism/Democracy. Its not for the sake of it but it is because the western governments are trying to force their secular values down our throats. This can be seen when you look at the Muslim countries. One of their arguments is that Islam is barbaric and secular democracy is the saviour. Therefore, this idea needs to be discussed. As regards where to implement Shariah, the Muslims do want to be governed by it but it is in the Muslim lands where they want it as regards a system, the Caliphate. At the moment, no country implements the Shariah comprehensively all they do is implement a few punishments and even then they don't implement them properly. Also, the Western governments especially Britain and America don't allow the Muslims to do so. That's why the Muslims can't go to any Muslim countries presently. - Irfan Bhatti Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:05:03 +0100 http://www.hizb.org.uk/hizb/resources/issues-explained/reaction-to-archbishop-s-sharia-speech-highlights-ignorance-about-sharia.html#comment-2825 this is another occasion where we can see the venom that is so deeply rooted within the western system towards Islam and its values and how threatning it is to their way of life ..it is one rule for themselves and another for any one else so where is the democracy there? >:( - ali Mon, 11 Feb 2008 04:07:32 +0100 http://www.hizb.org.uk/hizb/resources/issues-explained/reaction-to-archbishop-s-sharia-speech-highlights-ignorance-about-sharia.html#comment-2824 Courts of arbitration over marriage/divorce and financial matters have legal status for the Jews and have been for over 100 yrs, so why not for the muslims and any other religion if required? is not fairness a British value Mr Brown? let alone a universal one. - Nadeem Mon, 11 Feb 2008 01:04:11 +0100 http://www.hizb.org.uk/hizb/resources/issues-explained/reaction-to-archbishop-s-sharia-speech-highlights-ignorance-about-sharia.html#comment-2823 Salamu alaikum, Im sorry, I dont remember reading or hearing that the prophet saw ever challenged the leaders of the batil ideologies to genuine debate. Or to put en end to its devisive politics. could someone illuminate me on this? Jkl - yusuf Sun, 10 Feb 2008 20:49:03 +0100 http://www.hizb.org.uk/hizb/resources/issues-explained/reaction-to-archbishop-s-sharia-speech-highlights-ignorance-about-sharia.html#comment-2818 "Yet, the secular political elite in the UK is also unable to correlate the declining situation of our society, characterised by spiralling violence, materialism, debt, and alcoholism with the secular values they claim to be so superior to the Sharia." There is plenty of violence in the Middle East and the East. This is not unique to, or even most common in, the West. I agree that there is a strong case to be made for better restrictions on alcohol. However there is no evidence whatsoever that religion needs to come into it in any way. I know plenty of secular British people who do not touch alcohol - and also a few 'religious' ones who do. I agree that huge sections of the press have a disgusting attitude towards Islam and jump on stories like this to scare people and make money out of Islamophobia. However a lot of ordinary people are annoyed by the suggestion that certain groups of people should have one set of laws and certain groups of people should have another set of laws. The point of a liberal democracy is that the same laws apply to everybody. If people want to govern themselves via sharia law they can always choose to live in a country where sharia law applies. - Lou Sun, 10 Feb 2008 18:56:32 +0100 http://www.hizb.org.uk/hizb/resources/issues-explained/reaction-to-archbishop-s-sharia-speech-highlights-ignorance-about-sharia.html#comment-2816 wait a minute..is khilafah ultimately returning from the UK? - sunny Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:32:07 +0100